C: --fast documented for deep recursion; whitepaper numbers corrected
ack(3,8) was reported as "segfault" for the C impl in the previous whitepaper revision. That was a stale observation — C has --fast (bytecode VM with explicit frame stack) that handles deep recursion cleanly. The benchmark table compared the wrong modes. Corrected apples-to-apples: - Python --fast (bytecode VM) — 17,004 ms on ack(3,8) - C --fast (bytecode VM) — 1,433 ms **fastest of the three** - asm native (tree-walker) — 2,322 ms C's --fast wins every workload. asm still beats Python --fast by ~7x despite being a tree-walker, because it skips Python's per-op overhead entirely. c/main.c: --help text updated to clarify that --fast is required (or `ulimit -s unlimited`) for deep recursion in the default tree-walker mode. Attempted flipping --fast to default; reverted because that surfaced a cumulative-state buffer overflow in the bytecode compiler that only triggers after the full 189-test functional suite but not on isolated scripts. Left as a TODO in the code comment. 189 C tests + full test-all still pass. Whitepaper §6.4 table now shows all three impls in their high-performance configuration. Also noted that a pthread-with- larger-stack wrapper would let the C tree-walker handle deep recursion without --fast — tracked as low-priority future work since --fast is strictly faster regardless.
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/* Default stays tree-walker for now. Flipping to --fast as default
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" uncommonlisp (interactive REPL)\n\n"
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"Options:\n"
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" -e EXPR evaluate expression and print result\n"
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" -f, --fast auto-compile all defines (bytecode VM)\n"
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" -f, --fast auto-compile all defines (bytecode VM;\n"
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" required for deep recursion, e.g. ackermann(3,8))\n"
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" -j, --jit enable x86_64 JIT compiler for eligible functions\n"
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" -h, --help show this help\n"
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6.4 Three Implementations Head-to-Head (i5-8350U)
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Same hardware, same workloads, in-process timing via ``current-time-ms``. Best of two runs.
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Same hardware, same workloads, in-process timing via ``current-time-ms``. Best of two runs. Each implementation is run in its high-performance configuration: Python with ``--fast`` (bytecode VM), C with ``--fast`` (bytecode VM, also its mode for deep recursion), asm in its native tree-walker mode (asm has no bytecode layer — it doesn't need one).
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Benchmark Python fast C asm
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Benchmark Python fast C fast asm
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sum-to(100 000) 583 ms 121 ms **74 ms**
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sum-to(1 000 000) 5,432 ms 1,200 ms **734 ms**
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fib(35) iterative ~0 ms ~0 ms ~0 ms
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ackermann(3, 8) = 2045 18,479 ms (segfault) **2,383 ms**
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sum-to(100 000) 507 ms 24 ms 66 ms
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sum-to(1 000 000) 5,136 ms 238 ms 670 ms
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ackermann(3, 8) = 2045 17,004 ms 1,433 ms 2,322 ms
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asm wins every measurable workload on this hardware. The C interpreter segfaults on ackermann(3, 8) because its evaluator uses the host C stack for Scheme frames; ackermann recurses thousands of levels deep. asm and Python-fast both use explicit frame storage and handle the recursion cleanly. asm beats Python-fast by ~7× on ``sum-to(1M)`` and ~8× on ``ackermann(3, 8)`` despite asm being a tree-walker with no JIT — the constant-factor difference from eliminating Python's dict lookups, stack frames, and GC coordination is large.
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(C fast is the fastest cell in every row — best of the three on this hardware.)
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**asm's remaining bottleneck is allocation, not lookup.** Profiling ``sum-to(1M)`` shows ~170 MB RSS — each tail call through ``apply_closure`` + ``env_define`` allocates 24 bytes per parameter (sym / val / parent), twice per ``loop`` iteration, for 48 MB total before the three ``heap_grow`` events that follow. A future optimization candidate is per-frame batched allocation (``8 + 16N`` bytes once per call instead of ``24N``), or env-cell in-place reuse for self-tail-calls. An inline cache for env lookups (ported from Python's VM) turns out to help less than anticipated because asm's env chains are typically only 2 deep and each step is a pointer dereference; measured upper bound is ~5%.
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C wins every workload on this hardware. Its bytecode compiler + explicit frame stack (and optional ``--jit`` for pattern-matched call forms) gives a ~3× margin over asm on tail-recursive loops and deep recursion alike. asm's tree-walker is the narrowest Scheme of the three — no bytecode layer, no JIT — but still beats Python's bytecode VM by ~7–8× because it pays no Python overhead (no dict lookups, no object allocation per VM op, no interpreter dispatch thunk).
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**None of the three segfault on ackermann in their recommended mode.** Python ``--fast`` uses ``OP_TAIL_CALL`` with explicit frames. C ``--fast`` uses its bytecode VM, also with explicit frames. asm's ``jmp``-based TCO reuses the same host stack slot for tail calls. Only C's ``default`` tree-walker mode would exhaust the host C stack on deep recursion — by design; it uses the C call stack for each Scheme call. Either pass ``-f``/``--fast`` or ``ulimit -s unlimited`` when using the C tree-walker on deeply recursive code. The C binary's help text spells this out explicitly. (A future refactor could spawn a worker pthread with a 64 MB stack and run eval there, making the tree-walker safe under any configuration — tracked as an optional improvement, low priority given ``--fast`` is strictly faster anyway.)
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**asm's remaining bottleneck is allocation, not lookup.** Profiling ``sum-to(1M)`` shows ~170 MB RSS — each tail call through ``apply_closure`` + ``env_define`` allocates 24 bytes per parameter (sym / val / parent), twice per ``loop`` iteration, for 48 MB total before the three ``heap_grow`` events that follow. A future optimization candidate is per-frame batched allocation (``8 + 16N`` bytes once per call instead of ``24N``), or env-cell in-place reuse for self-tail-calls. An inline cache for env lookups (ported from Python's VM) turns out to help less than anticipated because asm's env chains are typically only 2 deep and each step is a pointer dereference; measured upper bound is ~5%. The ~3× gap to C is mostly the absence of a bytecode layer and the per-call env allocation — not a lookup-path problem.
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7. Portal: Feedback Across Time
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