#000049 §7 #26: mining for real recombinations + the pooled-808-STRICT check — verdict settles on margin@0.995
(a) Mined the pooled n=1+3+5 bench-qa runs (808 distinct STRICT answers) for natural recombinations at lowered θc≥0.7 → 37 would-fires, ALL token-collision FPs on inspection (Mount Kenya pulled into a Kilimanjaro answer, Dalí into da Vinci, Donovan into Superman). ZERO genuine recombination errors — the boundary is theoretical-in-practice; the failure mode is the candidate selector (top-k by token overlap) pulling different-entity same-subject-area clauses. (b) Re-ran the grid against the 808-cell pooled STRICT set: the §7 #25 'max@0.96' was itself a small-sample artifact — the n=5 444-cell set lacked the high-confidence spurious hits the pooled set has. On 808 cells θc goes back to ~0.995, and at θc=0.995 only agg=margin still catches 28/28 (max gets 27/28). microsoft/deberta-large-mnli / k=3 / agg=margin / θc=0.995 → 28/28 synthetic recombinations · 0/808 pooled real STRICT FP · 0/26 synthetic legit — the ONLY config in the 7-model×full-grid sweep that hits 1.0/0.0 on 808 cells, held at n=3 too. recommended_operating_point reverted to margin@0.995. Realistic next check: ~20-30 hand-built synthetic-recombination-vs- real-bench-qa-context fixtures (real haystack, deliberate re-attribution). Still SHADOW; runtime promotion fox+dav1d-decides. Production verifier unchanged; falsification-hard stays 10/12. Meta-lesson instance five: a bigger sample can vindicate a config a smaller one made look unnecessary — re-confirm the config choice (not just the threshold) each time the denominator grows.
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"thresholds_provenance": "the bench-validated operating point — arborist-nli-bench commit a1cb28d, ticket #000049 §7 #18; on the 28+26-case synth set this point gives 28/28 catch, 0/26 false positives, and the entailment guard is what filters the spurious competing-superlative contradictions",
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"_comment": "ticket #000049 §7 #25 — n=5-confirmed (444 real STRICT cells; also held at n=3=275). The {model × candidate-cap k × aggregation × guard × θc × θe} mega-grid found THIS robustly clears the §7 #12 gate: microsoft/deberta-large-mnli + k=2 + agg='max' (over the top-2 candidate clauses) + guard='max_entail' (max p_entail over those clauses) → catches all 28 synthetic recombinations (incl. both 5f-fal-hard fixtures), 0 false positives on 444 real STRICT answers, 0 on the 26 synthetic legit summaries — with ~4 pts of θc headroom (it stays 0 FP up to ~θc 0.99 on this sample; the config below uses 0.96 with margin). roberta-large-mnli is an equally-good alternate (k=2/max/θc=0.95). NOTE the journey: the §7 #23 candidate (deberta-base k=2 θc=0.99) was a small-FP-sample artifact — it's 27/28 here but the §7 #24 n=3 sample drove it to 11/28; it sits at the cliff. The §7 #18 'MiniLM-82M is the cost-pick' is overturned — at the fp=0 bar MiniLM caps at ~0.82, the large model gets 1.0; cost was the wrong axis. Still NOT the active default — pending (a) a bench-qa-derived recombination set (real false answers, not synthetic), (b) optionally n=9 STRICT (~825 cells), (c) fox+dav1d sign-off. When promoted: switch nli_model_version/hf_repo, wire 'aggregation'+'guard' into ShadowNLI.check, set max_candidate_clauses + thresholds, and fold nli_policy_hash (model+k+agg+guard+θc) into governance_policy_hash before any audit_mode effect (§7 #2).",
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"_comment": "ticket #000049 §7 #26 — confirmed across n=3=275 AND the pooled n=1+n=3+n=5 = 808 real STRICT cells (the §7 #25 'agg=max @ θc=0.96' was a small-sample artifact — the n=5 444-cell set lacked the high-confidence token-collision spurious hits the pooled set has; on 808 cells θc must go back to ~0.995, and at θc=0.995 'margin' is the ONLY aggregation that still catches 28/28 — 'max' gets 27/28, 'mean' ≤0.75). The {model × k × agg × guard × θc × θe} mega-grid: microsoft/deberta-large-mnli + k=3 + agg='margin' (= max over the top-3 candidate clauses of (p_contra - p_entail) of THAT clause — a single threshold that discriminates a real recombination [source genuinely contradicts → that clause's entail≈0 → margin≈0.996-0.998] from a spurious token-collision FP [the source ALSO contains an entailing clause → its margin drags to ~0.95-0.99]) + θc=0.995 → catches all 28 synthetic recombinations (incl. both 5f-fal-hard fixtures), 0 false positives on 808 real STRICT answers, 0 on the 26 synthetic legit summaries. This is the ONLY config (across the 7-model × full-grid sweep) that hits 1.0/0.0 on the 808-cell denominator. Mining the 808 real STRICT answers found ZERO natural recombination errors — the boundary is theoretical-in-practice; the failure mode the mining surfaced is the candidate selector (top-k by token overlap) pulling different-entity same-subject-area clauses (Mount Kenya into a Kilimanjaro answer, Dalí into da Vinci, Donovan into Superman), which 'margin' survives but a Phase-3 verifier-matched-clause hook would eliminate. Still NOT the active default — pending (a) a synthetic-recombination-vs-real-bench-qa-context set (~20-30 hand-built fixtures: real haystack, deliberate re-attribution — the recall-side realism check), (b) fox+dav1d sign-off. When promoted: switch nli_model_version/hf_repo, wire 'aggregation'='margin'+'guard' into ShadowNLI.check, set max_candidate_clauses=3 + thresholds, and fold nli_policy_hash (model+k+agg+guard+θc) into governance_policy_hash before any audit_mode effect (§7 #2).",
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"nli_model_version": "nli-shadow-v1-deberta-large-mnli",
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"hf_repo": "microsoft/deberta-large-mnli",
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"max_candidate_clauses": 2,
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"aggregation": "max",
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"guard": "max_entail",
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"thresholds": {"contradiction_veto": 0.96, "entailment_block_veto": 0.9},
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"thresholds_headroom_note": "0 FP held up to θc≈0.99 on the 444-cell n=5 STRICT sample; 0.96 is the conservative-recall choice (still 28/28). At n=3 the same model was 1.0/0.0 with agg='margin' @ θc=0.995 — both score-shapes work; 'max'+'max_entail' is the simpler/more-robust pick at n=5.",
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"alternates_at_fp0_proper_n": [
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{"hf_repo": "roberta-large-mnli", "config": "k=2/agg=max/guard=max_entail/θc=0.95", "catch_n5": "28/28", "note": "355M; equally good as the primary at n=5; not separately validated at n=3"},
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{"hf_repo": "facebook/bart-large-mnli", "config": "k=3/agg=mean/θc=0.94", "catch_n5": "20/28", "note": "407M; only ~0.71 recall at fp=0 — bigger ≠ better, it's the specific checkpoint"},
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{"hf_repo": "cross-encoder/nli-MiniLM2-L6-H768", "config": "k=2/agg=max/θc=0.98", "catch_n5": "23/28", "note": "82M; ~0.82 recall at fp=0 at proper n — NOT the cost-pick once you demand 0 FP"},
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{"hf_repo": "MoritzLaurer/DeBERTa-v3-base-mnli-fever-anli", "config": "k=2/agg=max/θc=0.99", "catch_n5": "27/28", "note": "184M; sits at the cliff — 27/28 here, 11/28 on the n=3 sample; sample-sensitive, do not use"}
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"max_candidate_clauses": 3,
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"aggregation": "margin",
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"guard": "max_entail (informational only — 'margin' folds the guard into the score, so θe is N/A)",
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"thresholds": {"contradiction_minus_entailment_margin_veto": 0.995},
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"simpler_alternate": {"config": "k=2/agg=max/guard=max_entail/θc=0.995/θe=0.9", "catch_pooled808": "27/28", "note": "the two-threshold variant — one recombination short of margin, but simpler; also 0/808 FP"},
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"model_alternates_proper_n": [
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{"hf_repo": "roberta-large-mnli", "best_fp0_pooled808": "21/28 = 0.75", "note": "355M; second-best on the pooled set — does NOT reach 28/28 there (the n=5-only 28/28 was a small-sample read)"},
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{"hf_repo": "facebook/bart-large-mnli", "best_fp0_pooled808": "~20/28", "note": "407M; bigger ≠ better — it's the specific checkpoint (and the right aggregation)"},
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{"hf_repo": "MoritzLaurer/DeBERTa-v3-base-mnli-fever-anli", "best_fp0_pooled808": "11/28", "note": "184M; collapses at proper-pooled-n — do not use"},
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{"hf_repo": "cross-encoder/nli-MiniLM2-L6-H768", "best_fp0_pooled808": "14/28", "note": "82M; the §7 #18 'cost-pick' is overturned — caps low once you demand 0 FP at a real denominator"}
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Candidate-clause restriction (§7 #21) + speedup (§7 #22 — batched
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forwards, device auto-detect, ONNX-int8 export, ~4× on CPU / seconds
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on a 4090) + a `{model × k × agg × guard × θc × θe}` grid sweep
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(§7 #23–#25, `bench/scripts/nli_shadow_grid.py`, run against bench-qa
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STRICT samples of growing size n=1=89 → n=3=275 → n=5=444) landed;
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the verdict moved **three times then settled**: §7 #22's "fails the
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gate" was a *default-config* artifact (k=6/θc=0.5/θe=0.9); §7 #23's
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"deberta-base k=2/θc=0.99 passes" was a *small-FP-sample* artifact
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(27/28 at n=5 but the n=3 sample drove it to 11/28 — sits at the
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cliff); §7 #24 (n=3) found a large model passes; **§7 #25
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(n=5-confirmed, 444 real STRICT cells)**: the lexical-candidate NLI
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veto **robustly clears the §7 #12 gate** — **`microsoft/deberta-large-mnli`
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/ k=2 / agg=max / guard=max_entail / θc≈0.96 / θe=0.9 → catches all
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28 synthetic recombinations (incl. both `5f-fal-hard` fixtures) ·
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0/444 real STRICT FP · 0/26 synthetic legit FP, ~4 pts of θc
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headroom**; `roberta-large-mnli` is an equally-good alternate
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(k=2/max/θc=0.95). Resolved findings: `agg=max + max_entail guard` is
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the robust score-shape across both proper-n samples (§7 #24's `margin`
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win was a sample tie); the *specific large checkpoint* (~350–400M:
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deberta-large-mnli / roberta-large-mnli) is what hits 1.0/0.0 —
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`bart-large` (similar size) only ~0.71, `deberta-base-184M` at the
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cliff, the small models (MiniLM-82M, deberta-v3-small) cap at ~0.82,
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so the §7 #18 "MiniLM is the cost-pick" is **overturned by the
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proper-n evidence**; k=2 is the consistent winner; int8-ONNX costs
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≈1 catch vs fp32. Remaining caveats (narrow now): the 28/28 recall is
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a *28-case* denominator — a bench-qa-derived recombination set (real
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false answers that took the paraphrase/entity path) is the one
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load-bearing check not yet done; the FP side is 444 cells at 0 FP
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(solid); n=9 (~825 cells) would add confidence but, given the ~4–5 pt
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θc margin, is "if dav1d wants more"; still SHADOW — flipping to a
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runtime demotion-only veto is fox+dav1d-decides (then `nli_policy_hash`
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= model+k+agg+guard+θc folds into `governance_policy_hash` per §7 #2);
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(§7 #23–#26, `bench/scripts/nli_shadow_grid.py`, run against bench-qa
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STRICT samples of growing size: n=1=89 → n=3=275 → n=5=444 → pooled
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n=1+3+5 = 808) + a mining pass over the 808 real STRICT answers for
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natural recombinations landed; the verdict moved **five times then
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settled**: §7 #22 "fails" = default-config artifact; §7 #23
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"deberta-base passes" = small-FP-sample artifact; §7 #24 found a large
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model passes at n=3 with `margin`; §7 #25 said "no, at n=5 plain
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`max`@0.96 works" — but §7 #26 (pooled 808, the biggest real FP
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denominator) showed *that* was the small-sample artifact: on 808 cells
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θc must go back to ~0.995 and at θc=0.995 only `margin` still catches
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28/28. **Settled: `microsoft/deberta-large-mnli` / k=3 / agg=`margin`
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(= max over top-3 candidate clauses of `p_contra − p_entail`) / θc=0.995
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→ catches all 28 synthetic recombinations (incl. both `5f-fal-hard`
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fixtures) · 0/808 pooled real STRICT FP · 0/26 synthetic legit FP** —
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the *only* config in the 7-model × full-grid sweep that hits 1.0/0.0
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on 808 cells, and it held at n=3 too (the simpler two-threshold variant
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k=2/`max`/θc=0.995 gets 27/28 · 0/808). Findings: `margin` is the right
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score-shape (discriminates a real recombination — source genuinely
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contradicts, that clause's entail≈0, margin≈0.997 — from a spurious
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token-collision FP — source also has an entailing clause, margin dragged
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to ~0.95–0.99); the specific *large* checkpoint matters (deberta-large-mnli
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wins; bart-large/deberta-base/MiniLM all collapse at proper-pooled-n,
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so the §7 #18 "MiniLM cost-pick" is overturned); int8-ONNX costs ≈1
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catch. **Mining the 808 real STRICT answers found ZERO natural
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recombination errors** — the boundary is theoretical-in-practice; the
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37 would-fires at lowered θc are all token-collision FPs (Mount Kenya
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pulled into a Kilimanjaro answer, Dalí into da Vinci, Donovan into
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Superman) — i.e. the candidate selector (top-k by token overlap) pulls
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different-entity same-subject-area clauses; `margin@0.995` survives it,
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a Phase-3 verifier-matched-clause hook would eliminate it. Remaining
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caveats: the 28/28 recall is a 28-case denominator and (since there are
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no natural recombinations to mine) the realistic next check is ~20–30
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hand-built synthetic-recombination-claim-vs-real-bench-qa-context
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fixtures (real haystack, deliberate re-attribution); still SHADOW —
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runtime promotion is fox+dav1d-decides (then `nli_policy_hash` =
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model+k+agg+guard+θc folds into `governance_policy_hash` per §7 #2);
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deberta-large is ~400M (GPU-fast). Manifest active defaults stay
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k=6/θc=0.5; the `recommended_operating_point` (deberta-large-mnli /
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k=2 / max / θc=0.96 / θe=0.9) is documented in the manifest. Standing
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lesson, sharpened thrice (codified in CLAUDE.md bench-maxing): the
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clean synthetic eval doesn't predict bench-qa precision (§7 #18→#20),
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the default config doesn't predict the best config (§7 #22→#23),
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**and a small FP-side sample doesn't predict the large-sample FP rate
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(§7 #23→#24→#25)** — every gate number is provisional until the
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denominators are big enough, and
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k=6/θc=0.5; `recommended_operating_point` = the `margin`@0.995 config.
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Standing lesson, sharpened five times (codified in CLAUDE.md
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bench-maxing): the clean synthetic eval doesn't predict bench-qa
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precision (§7 #18→#20), the default config doesn't predict the best
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config (§7 #22→#23), **and a small FP-side sample doesn't predict the
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large-sample FP rate — and a *bigger* sample can vindicate a config a
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smaller one made look unnecessary (§7 #23→#24→#25→#26)** — every gate
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number is provisional until the denominators are big enough, and
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the sweep has to be wide enough to include the config that survives
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them. Production verifier unchanged; `falsification-hard` stays 10/12.
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**Opened:** 2026-05-12
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answers, ~2 hours of GPU+LLM total. A guessed config (MiniLM, per the
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n=1 read) would have shipped a 0.82-recall veto when a 1.0-recall one
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was available.
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**26. Mining for *real* recombinations + the pooled-808-STRICT check
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— the §7 #25 "max@0.96" was *itself* a small-sample artifact; `margin`
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is reinstated as the right aggregation, and the boundary is
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theoretical-in-practice (2026-05-12).** §7 #25 left one open item: the
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28/28 recall is on a 28-case *synthetic* set; do real LLM answers
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actually recombine? Two passes:
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*(a) Mine the pooled n=1+n=3+n=5 bench-qa runs (808 distinct STRICT
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answers) for natural recombinations.* Ran the candidate veto over all
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808 at a *lowered* θc≥0.7: 37 STRICT-fires (`bench/results/nli-strict-fires-mining-pooled.jsonl`).
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On inspection, **all 37 are token-collision false positives, not
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genuine recombination errors** — the candidate-clause selector
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(top-k by token overlap) pulls in *different-entity, same-subject-area*
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clauses and NLI false-fires: e.g. "where is Kilimanjaro located?" /
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"Kilimanjaro is in Tanzania" gets the clause "Mount Kenya is located
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in central Kenya" pulled in (shares `Mount`, `located`, a country
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name) → NLI reads it as a contradiction (contra 0.99); "who painted
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the Mona Lisa?" / "da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa" gets "Salvador
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Dalí … painted …" (contra 0.95); "Superman's girlfriend" gets a
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Donovan *Sunshine Superman* album-tracklist clause (contra 0.99).
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**Zero of the 808 real STRICT answers look like an LLM-recombined
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falsehood the verifier missed** — the STRICT label holds; the
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recombination boundary is, in practice on well-covered factual
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questions, a *contrived/theoretical* concern (the 2 fixtures are
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hand-built). What the mining *does* prove is that the failure mode is
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**systematic in the candidate selector** — the token-overlap proxy
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pulls subject-area-sharing-but-different-entity clauses, and NLI then
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reads "statement about a different entity" as "contradicts the answer".
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*(b) Re-run the grid against the pooled 808-STRICT set (the biggest
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real FP denominator we have)* (`bench/results/nli-shadow-grid-pooled808-synth-vs-realstrict.json`):
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| **`deberta-large-mnli` / k=3 / agg=`margin` / θc=0.995** | **28/28 = 1.000** | **0/808** |
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| `deberta-large-mnli` / k=2 / agg=`max` / θc=0.995 | 27/28 = 0.964 | 0/808 |
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| `deberta-large-mnli` / k=2 / agg=`max` / θc=**0.96** *(the §7 #25 config)* | — | **FP > 0** (the Superman/Kilimanjaro/Dalí hits at contra 0.95–0.99) |
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| `roberta-large-mnli` (best fp=0) | 21/28 = 0.750 | 0/808 |
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| `bart-large-mnli` / `deberta-base` / MiniLM (best fp=0) | ≤ 20/28 | 0/808 |
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**The §7 #25 "`max` @ θc=0.96" was the small-sample artifact this
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time** — the n=5 444-cell STRICT set happened not to contain the
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high-confidence spurious hits the pooled n=1+n=3 runs do, so it let
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θc drop to 0.96; on 808 cells θc has to go back up to ~0.995. And at
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θc=0.995, **`agg=margin` is the only thing that still catches 28/28**
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(`max` gets 27/28; `mean` and the others ≤0.75). So **§7 #24's
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`margin` finding is reinstated**: `margin = max_clause(p_contra −
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p_entail)` is the right score-shape because it discriminates a *real*
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recombination (the source genuinely contradicts → that clause's
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entail ≈ 0 → margin ≈ 0.996–0.998) from a *spurious token-collision*
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FP (the source *also* contains the entailing clause → its margin is
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dragged to ~0.95–0.99) — a narrow gap, but it held on 808 cells where
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plain contradiction-thresholding did not.
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**Settled verdict.** The lexical-candidate NLI veto clears the §7 #12
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gate with **`microsoft/deberta-large-mnli` / k=3 / agg=`margin` /
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θc=0.995** → **28/28 synthetic recombinations (incl. both `5f-fal-hard`
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fixtures) · 0/808 pooled real STRICT FP · 0/26 synthetic legit FP** —
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this is the *only* config (across the 7-model × full-grid sweep) that
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hits 1.0/0.0 on the 808-cell denominator, and it has held across n=3
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(275 cells) and the pooled 808; the §7 #25 "max@0.96" only held on the
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n=5 444-cell sample. **Open items now minimal:** (a) the 28/28 recall
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is still a 28-case denominator — but since there are *zero* natural
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recombinations in 808 real STRICT answers, a "bench-qa-derived
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recombination set" can't be mined (there's nothing to mine); the
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realistic next step is *synthetic recombination claims constructed
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against real bench-qa contexts* (real haystack, deliberate
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re-attribution) — that tests "the candidate-selector + veto vs a real
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30 KB haystack" on the recall side, and is doable as ~20–30
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hand-built fixtures. (b) The systematic candidate-selector FP failure
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(different-entity clauses pulled in by token overlap) is *survived*
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by `margin@0.995` on real traffic but would be *eliminated* by a
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verifier actually grounded the answer against) — `margin@0.995` is
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robust enough to ship as-is, the Phase-3 hook is a "clean it up
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later". (c) Still SHADOW; runtime promotion is fox+dav1d-decides
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(then `nli_policy_hash` = model+k+agg+guard+θc folds into
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`governance_policy_hash`); deberta-large is ~400M (GPU-fast).
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Manifest active defaults stay k=6/θc=0.5; `recommended_operating_point`
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reverted to the `margin`@0.995 config. Production verifier unchanged;
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`falsification-hard` stays 10/12.
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*Meta-lesson, instance five (and the one that cuts the other way):*
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§7 #18→#20→#22→#23→#24→#25→#26 — clean eval ≠ bench-qa precision; the
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default config ≠ the best config; a small FP sample ≠ the large-sample
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FP rate **— and a *bigger* sample can vindicate a config a smaller
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one made look unnecessary** (n=5=444 said "drop θc to 0.96, use plain
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`max`"; pooled=808 said "no — `margin`@0.995 was right all along").
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The honest discipline: don't trust *any* denominator until it's the
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biggest you can afford, and re-confirm the *config choice* (not just
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the threshold) every time the denominator grows. Pooled 808 STRICT ×
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the full grid was ~4 min on the 4090.
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